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Post by DRUMITUP on May 12, 2005 17:42:12 GMT -5
Hey...I put credits toward Psps4Free.com, and someone signed up under me. The only problem is that, with sites such as Psps4Free.com, for the referral to be of any use to me, the person must complete an offer. I am not sure if the person missed this step or had no intention of doing it at all , but either way, he/she has requested credits. I am not sure what to do, because it's not my fault that the person failed to complete the offer, yet I will face a penalty (bad feedback) if I decline. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!! Thanks a lot.
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Post by timonier on May 13, 2005 1:26:56 GMT -5
The basic thing is: when someone signs up for one of your programs and completes registration according to the program's rules, you owe that person their credit for signing up.
It is unfortunate for you that the person did not do anything further. If you feel like it, and haven't accepted the transaction, you can decline it - but that will hurt your rating.
It's up to you to select programs that people will not only join, but also use. You might also select a program which allows you to contact your downline, and so directly encourage your referree to actualy participate. But in essence, once someone completes their side of the transaction - which is only to sign up (or sometimes, to... say... surf a minimum number of sites to become active...) it is your moral duty to accept the transaction.
Also bear in mind that some programs are not as attractive as advertised. I had signed up in good faith for various programs - though only once through GR, if I recall - only to find that they weren't worth bothering with, once I started using them. If your referree signed up and then didn't like what your program turned out to be: then that is your misfortune - but you owe a confirmation anyway.
If you think your good faith was abused, you can always post a warning on the general board. If that person gets repeatedly flagged as an abuser, that will deter others from confirming the abuser's transactionsas well as hitting their own ratings (you get penalized also for being refused - so try signing up with someone reputable whenever you can.)
Remember that getref is based on good faith... and on reputation: so try to protect yours, and act as you best see fit to protect it... without rewarding genuine cheaters.
Of course, if you feel REALLY REALLY bad about it, you can upgrade and ban the user. Or you could signup for one or two of your referree's programs, and do nothing - tit for tat - to get your points back. That might or might not be ethical, depending on why your referree did not proceed further. But the problem is essentially the same for all of us: GR only facilitates signups, it doesn't guarantee performance.
[As a matter of fairness, I feel that there should be an appeal process against a ban, particularly for a user with an established reputation / solid rating ... but that is another issue.]
So try to select programs that will "get them hooked". Best are programs that people will find useful and sign up for anyway, but will do so through you - and build your downline - via getref.
Hope this helps (anyone have any other comments or perspective on this?)
Best, Phil
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Post by renderud on May 13, 2005 1:43:53 GMT -5
Hello, Under Getref current tos, you cannot require this person to complete an offer if that means they have to spend any money to do so. Only free programs allowed. So if they cannot complete an offer without spending money, you owe them acceptance for signing up. renderud
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Post by GetRef.com on May 13, 2005 11:07:18 GMT -5
Hi there, Both of these great users have answered your question correctly. One thing that I noticed is that timonier may not completely understand how the ban works for gold members.
When a gold member bans a user, the banned user can still join other peoples programs, just not the gold member that banned him. (If im wrong about your understanding Timonier, just ignore this post, we'll leave this here just in case someone else doesn't understand the ban process)
I basically agree with everything both timonier and renderud said. Note here: There are some changes on the horizon that are going to address some of these issues. I hope to have them in place within 3 weeks. (No promises on the time however).
Thanks, Jay
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Post by DRUMITUP on May 13, 2005 15:36:22 GMT -5
Hey, thanks a lot for helping me out. I just wanted to make it known that, when I signed up for the offer, I signed up for a free trial and canceled right after I was credited. I didn't have to pay anything. Does this change anything? (If I could complete an offer for free, the person who signed up under me could as well) Anyway, I decided to give the person the credits so I would have better feedback, but if someone could answer this follow-up to my question, it would really help me for future situations such as this one. Thanks again!!!
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